The GP Deep Diver quest for information continues: Ref 7897

Sep 13, 2014,03:37 AM
 

Friends,

As you know I have been focusing a lot on the Deep Diver line since I started as Moderator here.

One of the reasons for this is that long before I got the MOD role I was hunting information about this mysterious Deep Diver.

Got some info here and there…  So, I was a bit up to speed on this topic…

Why I was hunting info on the Deep Diver? Well, you know my story from over at JLC and other places; I have a very weak spot for these lesser known early divers…

Will share my full story on the topic in a separate post one day, but this post is about the Deep Diver ref 7897, so…

As I said, I got some information but with the help from the Manufacture I have now started to put the pieces together!

Here is a scan from the German catalog, July 1963: DEEP DIVER, Water resistant down to 200 meters. Steel, Automatic, 25 Jewels, Black or White dial, Turning bezel, Bracelet in steel or Tropical strap.





35 mm in diameter, 225 CHF with Tropical strap and 260 CHF with steel bracelet. Yes, even if the catalog is in German, the price list is in Swiss Franc. You notice the typo, 7897 is referring to above which is 7317.





In the scan we see the white dial version of the ref 7897, long applied indexes and luminous in the hands on the tips of the hands.

Nicolas has shown us his daughters Deep Diver, same hands as in the catalog but with black dial.





The 7897 didn’t only come in two different dial colors, but also with two different sets of hands.

Here you can see the other version; the luminous are shaped as diamonds instead of arrows.

Sorry for the low resolution, the photo is from the original Manufacture card.





The photo also gives you a hint of how the bracelet looks like.

Reference 7897 was only made for two years, 1961 and 1962. 1500 watches in total.





This one has lived a hard life. As you can see the plexi is deeply scratched and it is in need of some love!





Inside is the Cal GP 31-09, based on the AS1649. Automatic movement, beating at the rate of 21 600 bph.

Interesting detail is that the catalog says 25 Jewels while the Cal 31-09 only has 17… A sales pitch?! A typo…?





Even if the exterior tells a story of hard life, the inside tells another story of safety and well protected. The movement is very nice and clean, gilt surface without a lot of scratches or stains.

It has been protected by the snap on case back all these years.





After viewing Nicolas watch it got me thinking. From the look of it the bezel is missing, BUT if that was the case, the case would look different. Wouldn’t it?

My curiosity made me take the 7897 apart (friends, please do not do this if you are not sure you will be able to put the watch back together!).





Let’s have a closer look: bezel.





How does it look under the bezel? Well, here is the answer: flat surface with a step, two third from the edge.

Notice the small black dot? The “dot” is the one the bezel is “clicking” against when turning the bezel.





From this, my conclusion is that Nicolas watch does not miss the bezel. Rather that it is yet another Deep Diver reference we are still to explore! An earlier version of the Deep Diver without a turning bezel? Like the first generation of the Zenith S. 58?

Hope to find the answer one day…

Since the watch is opened, let’s have a closer look at the dial. Clean with some traces of patina on the edges. The hands need a cleaning, but otherwise in good condition.





And for last we have the snap on case back. Another interesting detail to know about the 7897 is that the case was not made by Piquerez SA (EPSA) like the 8867. The case was made by Stila SA, another La Chaux-de-Fonds based company specializing in case making and metal work.





The catalog stated that the 7897 can with Tropical strap…





Yes, that looks correct!

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I find these Deep Divers very appealing, great watches to enjoy in the sun!

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And to finish, a “Blomman” wristshot!





Thank you for following me in my quest to uncover the GP Deep Diver line!

 

Best

Blomman

This message has been edited by blomman on 2014-09-15 03:34:31

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Aaah, yes! But this one you are showing is bigger than Ava's one.

 
 By: amanico : September 13th, 2014-03:45
Ava's is 31 / 32 mm big... While yours has a 35 mm case! Exactly my kind of stuff... ;) Superb find, superb review, my friend. So, now you dismantle watches? :) If you ever find a second one, please think about me! Best, Nicolas

You mean after he finds

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : September 13th, 2014-13:13
72nd one? :) Yours D

Yes, what I fear... ;) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : September 13th, 2014-13:26

You know my three digit rule...! ;) [nt]

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 13th, 2014-14:26

Do you know that...

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : September 14th, 2014-11:54
I implemented it to all aspects of my life :) Yours D

That is good news! :)

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 14th, 2014-13:59
From now on your life will be much better and easier! ;) Best Blomman

Easier not sure...

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : September 14th, 2014-23:54
better for sure;)

Promise, it get's easier! ;) [nt]

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 15th, 2014-03:24

Hm 31/32 mm?

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 13th, 2014-14:25
That means that it is not the same dial. Only look the same. Would be interesting to see shots of the case back and movement. Thank you, dear friend! And yes, I always think of you when I find a watch like this... Did also when I found this one, I promise... 

Damn you. ;) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : September 13th, 2014-23:04

It's OK...

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 14th, 2014-03:33
I always think of you, my friend! ;) Best Blomman

LOL! [nt]

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 14th, 2014-13:59

Another nice find

 
 By: crown comfort : September 13th, 2014-04:48
very very inspiring, keep them coming :)

That is good to hear, CC!

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 13th, 2014-14:27
If I am able to inspire you to come over to the "dark side", the vintage I am very pleased, my fried! :) Best Blomman

Great stuff my friend

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : September 13th, 2014-13:16
not only you have them all but you have all the spare parts for all of them so it looks like you are dismantle them :) GP & sun = winning combo Yours D

GP - the sunshine brand! :)

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 13th, 2014-14:34
I wish I had spares for all of them! But I have located and secured a NOS plexi for this one. :) Sometimes fortune smiles my way! :) Best, my friend Blomman

You found one!!!

 
 By: AlexSunrise : September 19th, 2014-14:45
I am very happy for you, Blomman!!!! Once again you managed to make sourcing a watch look easy! Great information as well ;-) Mine says hello, All the best, Alex ...  

I have been hunting one.....

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 21st, 2014-01:17
Ever since I saw yours! :) Or actually I started even before that but when you posted yours for the first time, my hunt got more intense! Thank you, my friend! As you know it's not easy scoring some of these vintage marvels.... ;) Best Blomman ...  

Yep, that's me! ;) [nt]

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 21st, 2014-01:31