A novice collector starts into vintage Girard Perregaux?

Jun 07, 2014,05:18 AM
 

This is going to be a somewhat unusual thread. On the Rolex forum, I once posted a thread entitled "5 simple rules for vintage Rolex beginners." The aim of the thread was to help direct vintage beginners (somewhat of an oxymoron there) through the process of buying a vintage Rolex. It occurred to me that whilst I had some clues (admittedly just a few) for what to do in Rolex world, I was completely at sea when it came to many other makes.....such as GP. Having read Blomman's threads on GP, I find myself edging ever closer to the idea that I need to hunt down a vintage GP for myself. Having never done so before, I am left scratching my head about how to start. I have fallen for Blomman's descriptions of GP and want to have one.....but.....

Well, first question is what specific watch do I want? Well, thats not as easy as it sounds. Hence, my first step in my quest will be to ask those with the expertise what works....and by that I mean what vintage pieces tick the boxes I am looking at. First, it needs to be a chronometer. Second, I want white metal with a strong preference for steel. Third, I want the piece to be from the 1960s and to have as few complications as possible. Ideally, no date but thats not a deal-breaker. In terms of size, I am looking in a 35-40mm range as workable. Now, this is where a beginner might ask the experts....what vintage pieces fall into the realm that I am looking for?

I am wondering if this thread becomes one where an entire cycle of the vintage buying process is captured?!
This message has been edited by Baron on 2014-06-07 05:28:04

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AFAIK, no Chronometer with a manual movement from the 60ies, from GP.

 
 By: amanico : June 7th, 2014-05:48
Bad news, my friend... Best, Nicolas

Then I guess i need to amend my search.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 7th, 2014-06:02
........what I want to stay intact is the chronometer movement....so will be more flexible on era. Some things are more important than others....would have been nice to make it 60s......but not a must.

Manual GP chronometer

 
 By: TS1987 : June 7th, 2014-06:27
There is one reference that I know of and it was written about on this very website: As for the automatic Gyromatic Chronometer HFs, track me down and I can show you what a full box and paper set looks like as I have one watch with every piece of paperwo... 

Baron, I think you need a bit different approach when it comes to GP....

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : June 7th, 2014-11:20
I will not say that it is easier to buy for example Rolex or Jaeger then it is Girard-Perregaux... BUT, from my experience - there is a difference! If you are hunting a Rolex or JLC there are: 1. Knowledge and confirmation. Tons of reference material. Boo... 

What you are saying is….

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 7th, 2014-11:57
…..i can't approach the hunt in the same way that I go about Rolex. That will make it much harder for me. I like to have a very clear focus. Having said that, i guess my first lesson has to be that I need to adjust my approach and time frame. Condition is... 

You will need a loooot of patience, too. As the nice vintage GPs in good condition are not

 
 By: amanico : June 7th, 2014-12:03
That easy to catch! But that is the exciting part of the game, isn't it? Best, Nicolas

From what you have said....

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : June 7th, 2014-12:36
I would say that this would be a good start point - GP 9086: There are a lot of different refs here with different case shapes... But, from what I know, I think you would prefer a more classic shape. Best Blomman ...  

Here is a couple of macros

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : June 8th, 2014-03:19
Of the dial - White and Blue. Both with a brushed surface. Best Blomman ...  

Beautiful.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 8th, 2014-04:42
......i think as much as I like the design of the vintage chrono, I am erring towards the simplicity of this HF....the brushed dial certainly adds a lot for me. Great macro shots!

Thank you

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : June 8th, 2014-05:36
Yes, I can't more than agree! The texture of the dials are great. Best Blomman

If you want a Chronometer HF, be aware

 
 By: TS1987 : June 10th, 2014-05:33
That there are "first generation" and "second generation" models. Calibre 32.7 is a chronometer HF sans date whereas 32A has a date. Calibre 42.1 has a longer power reserve as the barrel is larger. There are various case and dial designs such as reference... 

You pull a "Blomman" and gets it!

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : June 7th, 2014-13:27
Double tap reply :) 1. You pull a "Blomman" and gets it! - this is and should be reference sentence/expression for certain SOP regarding watch hunting 2. You proved what you sad to me recently that Vlad is rookie for you you managed to tun Joe quicker to ... 

LOL! To pull a "Blomman" comes actually from ....

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : June 8th, 2014-03:23
Mr. Baron! :) But I am not sure if credit are in place to be handed out... AFAIK, our dear friend already have a GMT in his stunning collection! Or is that one to be counted as his wife's....? Best Blomman

Well......some conformation...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 10th, 2014-01:56
...I was in London yesterday and visited a number of vintage dealers. Not a single GP amongst them. Omega, Vacheron, Zenith, Rolex, Patek etc etc.....but not a single GP. It is now getting interesting from a completely different angle...... the hunt for t... 

Now you see the challenge...?! ;)

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : June 10th, 2014-10:40
So you noticed, eh? Yes, as I wrote - to find one is harder... And to find a good one is even harder! As for coming over, you know my door is always open for you, my friend. It would be my pleasure! :) Best Blomman

so....how many tick-boxes.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 15th, 2014-04:56
......1960s.......tick. .....white metal.......tick. ....chronometer.......tick. .....35-40mm........uhm...34mm....uhm ....complications........date......ok....tick. .....condition........mint....tick The hunt progresses.

first itch...scratched

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 29th, 2014-11:08

Indeed, in a fabulous way! :) [nt]

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : June 29th, 2014-13:54

mumble....mumble

 
 By: robert11a2001 : June 27th, 2014-23:26
per quanto ne so' è molto probabile che la tua ricerca debba orientarsi probabilmente solo su questo orologio L'immagine è presa dal web. Si tratta della vesione in acciaio del'orologio in oro che è gia' stato segnalato. Il calibro è il 30, probabilmente ...  

Re: mumble

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : June 28th, 2014-02:58
Ciao Giuseppe, Thank you for your input. I will ask the Manufacture about the watch from Peter CDE. Best Blomman

PLZ BLOMMAN

 
 By: robert11a2001 : June 28th, 2014-03:23
PLEASE : CHIEDI ANCHE INFORMAZIONI SU GP MODEL 1950 " chronometer" con calibro GP 03. Possiedo questo orologio, secondo me è originale ma non ho nessun riscontro. Le uniche differenze con un normale GP 03 che sono in grado di rilevare sono le scritte e i ... 

Will ask! :) [nt]

 
 By: blomman Mr Blue : June 28th, 2014-13:55